Know of any others?īesides that, are there any items that allow unarmed attacks to overcome DR? You could attach a wilding clasp to it and continue using it in your wild shape. For example an air elemental can turn into a whirlwind, which damages creatures that get caught in it. Any idea what a druid's options are for wild shapes that have energy attacks, etc.? Elementals have a few supernatural abilities. At 16th level a druid get access to those. A creature with damage reduction takes normal damage from energy attacks (even non-magical ones), spells, spell-like abilities, and supernatural abilities. Being a giant scorpion could be fun, but by the time you can get Vermin Wild Shape, there are probably much better options. Plants and vermin are also fair game if you get the appropriate feats. It looked like my options in there were dinosaurs, dire animals, and animals in the appendix. Maybe Brown Bears were overpowered in 3.5.īuggritall I'm going to have to go track down an MM2 and 3 to investigate the hunting bat and fleshraker. One Fighter versus a regular bear and a magical bear.)Īnd let's not even bring Grappling into it. And let's be honest here-that Druid is going to have the Natural Spell Feat, too. (And this isn't taking into account that at 7th Level, a Druid can have a Brown Bear as his animal companion, which means there's a very good chance that Fighter is going to have to fight two bears who are each stronger than a Hill Giant. Still, all things being equal, most of the time.
Maybe the Fighter has a Tanglefoot Bag? Bears can't use those.
He could climb a tree, bears can't.oh wait, nevermind. Maybe the Fighter will have a neat magic item, and use superior tactics. Bears don't get ranged attacks, after all.
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One 8th-Level Fighter versus a Brown Bear that's stronger than a Hill Giant and has a Bite/Claw/Claw Full Attack? Now, a Brown Bear has a Challenge Rating of 4, meaning that it's supposed to be an equal challenge for four average 4th-Level Player Characters. For comparison, a Stone Giant has a Strength of 27, while a Hill Giant has a Strength of only 25*. The average Brown Bear has a Strength of 27. So what do you think? Does the druid's wild shape ability let the druid become a better fighter than a fighter? At what point does that happen?Īt 8th Level, a Druid can take the shape of a Large animal.Ī Brown Bear is a Large animal. At that point I don't think there would be any question about it. And by epic levels, the druid can spend feats on Magical Beast Wild Shape, Gargantuan Wild Shape, Colossal Wild Shape, and Dragon Wild Shape. And eventually you get access to wilding clasps to keep your equipment bonuses.Īt some point in there, the druid is going to become a better front-line fighter than the fighter is-even ignoring spells and the animal companion. At this point, I'm pretty sure the 5th level fighter is still better than any 5 HD animal in the MM.īut at 8th level the druid can be any large animal any huge animal at 15th level gets all supernatural and spell-like abilities and can become an elemental at 16th level. Hit dice cannot exceed the druid's level. But then I started wondering if a druid could make a better fighter than a fighter.Īt 5th level a druid can wild shape into any small or medium animal. I thought, well if you're going to go cleric then go full CoDzilla. In another thread, some folks were giving advice to someone about a fighter build and someone recommended multiclassing into cleric.
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